all of them are shown in ugly form.
I think all they do is to imagine creatures that look different from humans. 'Ugly' is a judgement we pronounce on them using human standards and beauty criteria.
humans have produced many movies on extraterrestrials.
yet all of them are shown in ugly form.
why cant we depict an et more beautiful/handsome than humans.
all of them are shown in ugly form.
I think all they do is to imagine creatures that look different from humans. 'Ugly' is a judgement we pronounce on them using human standards and beauty criteria.
when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
Still in too. In my hall there's one bro I strongly feel is an undercover agent :) . I feel so due to the nature of his comments, how he presents his TMS parts and how quick he is at picking on jw behavior.
i met a coworker at my work who was even more commited to his religion then almost anybody i had seen in the jw mids yet.
whenever we went for lunch, he would do a little prayer first, he didnt care if anybody would take notice of him.
he does not curse, never!
I do. I must say it's a cultural thing in my country. People take religion really seriously, and I mean that they LIVE their religions with every breath.
Over here jws are just one of many...
who are the real heroes of society?.
are they not the people who are doctors and nurses and teachers and firemen and policemen and counselors and humanitarians?.
because of the watchtower organization, we are missing generations of those kinds of heroes who will not exist (but could have) because jehovah's witnesses destroyed them by convincing millions of it's members those professions are meaningless and unimportant for them to pursue.
...deliberately ignorant people of no use to themselves, their families or mankind.
What is such a person capable of except Kamikaze ethics?
Words like these keep me going. Sometimes you live a certain reality but you sort of re-discover it when it's translated into appropriate words.
ecc 12:12 - "to the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion [to them] is wearisome to the flesh.".
i just never could keep up with all the jw reading material.
as a zealous jw, it was my desire to read every word published by the org, but i just couldn't do it.
Ecc 12:12 - "To the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion [to them] is wearisome to the flesh."
Throughout last year, this verse was routinely used to berate higher education. I'd just think to myself: LOOK WHO IS TALKING?!!?
There was this witness I used to discuss the stupid education policy with, who called me after an assembly, excited to discover a bible verse 'supporting the GB stand on education' and quoted it.
I asked her if it was logic that a non-stop-book-oozing-organization was even allowed to use that verse against anyone else, and that THE WT SHOULD BE THE LAST ENTITY ON EARTH TO QUOTE THAT VERSE.
Because even big book publishing companies and newspapers do not forcefully impose on their readership to continually "study" the material they publish the way the WT does.
i haven't heard this one in a while but it has been on my mind lately.
maybe it's because i'm noticing that these days people at the kh are going the extra mile to vary their seating places in all meetings.. having skipped meetings for a few weeks, i'm wondering if there has been a talk/article about that recently.
that's one of the most laughable rules they made and i never felt bound by it.
There was a Thursday meeting then and the CO picked the same seats that night and that couple moved them again.
I'd give everything to be in that KH at that moment! Pointless meanness jw style: "I hurt you just because I can."
i haven't heard this one in a while but it has been on my mind lately.
maybe it's because i'm noticing that these days people at the kh are going the extra mile to vary their seating places in all meetings.. having skipped meetings for a few weeks, i'm wondering if there has been a talk/article about that recently.
that's one of the most laughable rules they made and i never felt bound by it.
I haven't heard this one in a while but it has been on my mind lately. Maybe it's because I'm noticing that these days people at the KH are going the extra mile to vary their seating places in all meetings.
Having skipped meetings for a few weeks, I'm wondering if there has been a talk/article about that recently. That's one of the most laughable rules they made and I never felt bound by it. I mean....give me a break! I can socialise before and after the meeting, no matter where I sat.
Really want to know...has that rule ever helped someone, like making them to get closer to people they'd never have been close to? What in your opinion is the real motivation behind that pointless rule?
I'm thinking...maybe just a way to add some sort of variety to an otherwise boring, tucked-in-stone routine at meetings.
this topic has been on my mind lately.
i have been looking around at jws and wondering how many truly believe the end is as near as they are told.
from my personal experience, i know that my parents fully believe the end is imminent and may come any time now.
This question is a hard one because to answer it one should be able to read people's heart.
Apart from the truly sincere ones, the vast majority of jws love to recite formulas to show how "spiritual" they are. Which makes it difficult to determine this really.
What I know for sure is that OUT OF BOTH GROUPS no one still stacks their problems because "A is around the corner" to come and solve it for them. Seems like everyone's making plans for their future...just in case.
But of course I can only talk about jws around me.
...that only people from those countries can lead 'his organization'.. a few years ago, one conversation stopper people would often bring up to jws in my country is: 'you guys are an american religion'.
the standard answer we were formatted to give to shoot that down was that "god does not favor any nationality over others.
however some countries do possess some advantages needed for the advancement of the divine work.
Why should we suggest anything to the Watchtower/Governing Body that will improve them?
V.I: Because their typical American stand on most things is making life unbearable for millions living elsewhere. Getting them to reconsider these things will make such people feel less guilty (about not being able to comply with the society's lofty requirements simply because of their location).
SAHS: on point! I didn't include this aspect because they misapply the scriptures to justify their stand on this. But I wonder if there's any scripture explaining or foresaying that the org of God should be in the US?
It won't be a good idea to reveal my country for now. But I can assure you these things are commonplace in most developping countries accross a few continents.
...that only people from those countries can lead 'his organization'.. a few years ago, one conversation stopper people would often bring up to jws in my country is: 'you guys are an american religion'.
the standard answer we were formatted to give to shoot that down was that "god does not favor any nationality over others.
however some countries do possess some advantages needed for the advancement of the divine work.
...that only people from those countries can lead 'his organization'.
A few years ago, one conversation stopper people would often bring up to jws in my country is: 'you guys are an American religion'. The standard answer we were formatted to give to shoot that down was that "God does not favor any nationality over others. However some countries do possess some advantages needed for the advancement of the divine work. The USA present assets such as their freedom of speech, economic and political stability. Those and other reasons explain why our religion is based in the USA even though it's a wordwide brotherhood."
That's such a lie! The religion isn't just based in the US. The vast majority of its leaders (or whatever they call themselves) are Americans, or are at least people from Europe, North America and other western countries.
This is a religion of about 8 million people accross this planet, present in almost all countries and all continents and islands. And God hasn't found anyone else, apart from people from a handful rich western countries to direct 'his organization!'. No one from Vanuatu, Taiwan, Madagascar, Yemen, Mongolia, etc, is worthy of being part of the small group of people who make decisions affecting the lives of ALL the people living in these parts of the planet and many more? Wow
They write to the congregations throughout the world, pretending to follow the model of Paul. Paul did not only write letters to those congregations. He visited the places personnally and spent some time with the people in there; so he knew their realities and gave advice matching their needs, or at least their realities. I guess it would have been a whole lot different if Paul was born in Rome, grew up in Rome, knew personnally only about Roman realities and culture, and had taken a comfortable office in Rome and started spewing things out the way the GB does.
Spewing things about how these christians were to live, work amd worship, solely taking as reference his Roman background, culture and experience.
I live in a country where the mere notion of 'part time job' is non existent. How do you want people to pioneer and go use something that does not exist to take care of themselves?
where I leave, people do their own cleaning, errand running etc. So there's absolutely nothing like petty jobs to do to sustain oneself. You have to get fairly trained, merely so that you can just stand the chance to apply for a steady full time job.
where I live, we have to pay for EVERY SINGLE THING! For your kids' education ( from kindergarten to high school isn't free), you have to pay fees, even in the public schools. If you're sick and dying, there's no effective health care system to help you. You stay in your house and die if your family and friends can't hlep you with money. Pregnant women are turned away from hospitals if they can't pay to deliver their babies! If they came in too late, and the hospital staff helps them deliver, the mother and baby are kept in the hospital, sometimes for years, waiting for relatives/charitable souls to come, pay the childbirth fees and 'free them'.
There is no organized social support system to help out the needy ones. No social accomodations, no food stamps, no refuge for the homeless where they can eat... NOTHING!!! The only option everyone around here has...is to WORK.
Jws here like to recite paragraphs parroting the GB's stand on education and 'materialism'. But deep down, they know that's just theory for us. Our realities are just too different.
Here 3 suggestions to alleviate this problem...in case any of the 'top leaders' is reading:
1. The GB should consider the diversity factor when voting new members in...I'm sure if the whole thing was truly divinely inspired, Jah wouldn't have restricted so much the geographical locations to pick honest hearted folks from.
2. GB members should consider rotating in countries, staying for 3-5 years on a different continent. Unless the antenna receiving the holy spirit can only work in Brooklyn. When living in different countries, they shouldn't live in bethel/ missionary homes, because these do not reflect the reality of the places. They should live life as the local people are living it...everyday.
Then and only then can they say thing which begin to make sense for some of us.
3. In case they refuse to do these things, jws living outside the western world should consider changing religions. Just too bad no one else is promising us the magic paradise.
For the meantime, poor us will strive to continue worshipping God with people whose heads are in the clouds, their bodies in the US, but whose mouths are in every business of ours.
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